Oblivion:Route Logic - Revision history

>MeemawHustlin at 01:19, 14 October 2022

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	The following pages detail the general route logic behind each version of the Oblivion 100% Speedrun:		The following pages detail the general route logic behind each version of the Oblivion 100% Speedrun:

	'''[[Oblivion:Version 1\|Version 1]]''' \| '''[[Oblivion:Version 2\|Version 2]]''' \| '''[[Oblivion:Version 3\|Version 3]]''' \| '''[[Oblivion:Version 4\|Version 4]]'''		<div style="text-align: center;">'''[[Oblivion:Version 1\|Version 1]]''' \| '''[[Oblivion:Version 2\|Version 2]]''' \| '''[[Oblivion:Version 3\|Version 3]]''' \| '''[[Oblivion:Version 4\|Version 4]]'''</div>

	==Quests==		==Quests==

>MeemawHustlin at 01:19, 14 October 2022

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	The following pages detail the general route logic behind each version of the Oblivion 100% Speedrun:		The following pages detail the general route logic behind each version of the Oblivion 100% Speedrun:

	* '''[[Oblivion:Version 1\|Version 1]]'''		'''[[Oblivion:Version 1\|Version 1]]''' \| '''[[Oblivion:Version 2\|Version 2]]''' \| '''[[Oblivion:Version 3\|Version 3]]''' \| '''[[Oblivion:Version 4\|Version 4]]'''
	* '''[[Oblivion:Version 2\|Version 2]]'''
	* '''[[Oblivion:Version 3\|Version 3]]'''
	* '''[[Oblivion:Version 4\|Version 4]]'''

	==Quests==		==Quests==

>MeemawHustlin at 01:18, 14 October 2022

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	==Combat==		==Combat==
			''Full article: [[Oblivion:Combat\|Combat]]''

	Throughout the run, there are several instances of combat either due to a quest requiring it, or inadvertently during exploration of the map and various dungeons. The ideal way of handling combat would be to avoid it whenever possible, and to have a quick and simple setup for killing unavoidable enemies from a distance. The current strategy is to use a combination of [[Oblivion:Perma Enchanting\|Perma Enchanted]] 80% Chameleon with a toggleable 20% Chameleon ring to avoid the majority of all combat situations, along with the use of a glitched stack of Apotheosis staves to deal massive damage to enemies without needing to worry about running out of ammo.		Throughout the run, there are several instances of combat either due to a quest requiring it, or inadvertently during exploration of the map and various dungeons. The ideal way of handling combat would be to avoid it whenever possible, and to have a quick and simple setup for killing unavoidable enemies from a distance. The current strategy is to use a combination of [[Oblivion:Perma Enchanting\|Perma Enchanted]] 80% Chameleon with a toggleable 20% Chameleon ring to avoid the majority of all combat situations, along with the use of a glitched stack of Apotheosis staves to deal massive damage to enemies without needing to worry about running out of ammo.

>MeemawHustlin at 05:12, 10 October 2022

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	A sub-task of the skill grind is to optimize Attribute Allocation to maximize how many character level-ups and therefore training levels we can acquire using the Infinite Level-Up Glitch.		A sub-task of the skill grind is to optimize Attribute Allocation to maximize how many character level-ups and therefore training levels we can acquire using the Infinite Level-Up Glitch.

	==Random Skill Books==		==Skill Books==

			''Full article: [[Oblivion:Skill Books Read\|Skill Books]]''

			There are 109 skill books in the game, some of which have multiple places they can be found in the game. The goal is acquire as many of these skill books as possible when we are already near them during other objectives. The full article provides a comprehensive list of all the skill books in the game and their sources.

			===Random Skill Books===

	''Full article: [[Oblivion:Random Skill Books\|Random Skill Books]]''		''Full article: [[Oblivion:Random Skill Books\|Random Skill Books]]''

>MeemawHustlin: /* Map Exploration */

2022-10-10T05:08:01Z

Map Exploration

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	''Full article: [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]]''		''Full article: [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]]''

	One of the main challenges we need to tackle during the route is to max out the Places Found statistic in the Accomplishments Tab. There are 367 map markers to discover, several of which have logic requirements such as finding them before/after a certain stage of a quest. Since methods of acquiring massive speed boosts to explore the map require a long setup time and often cannot be done in tandem with quests and other objectives, the main focus of map exploration is to find as many locations as possible all at once rather than locating them as needed throughout the run. This portion of the route can also potentially include locating Wayshrines and Heaven Stones.		One of the main challenges we need to tackle during the route is to max out the Places Found statistic in the Accomplishments Tab. There are 367 map markers to discover, several of which have logic requirements such as finding them before/after a certain stage of a quest. Since methods of acquiring massive speed boosts to explore the map require a long setup time and often cannot be done in tandem with quests and other objectives, the main focus of map exploration is to find as many locations as possible all at once rather than locating them as needed throughout the run. This portion of the route can also potentially include locating Wayshrines and Heaven Stones, but in recent revisions this has not been the case.

	~~Currently we are investigating the potential of several variations of map exploration tech, which include things such as speed boosts on the horse vs. the player~~, ~~traveling~~ in ~~vectors vs. traveling salesman paths to canvas~~ the map as efficiently as possible, locating random Oblivion Gates during/after the main exploration circuit, etc. Map Exploration takes roughly 5.5 hours to complete in the current route logic, which now makes it almost a quarter of the total run time. It is for this reason that Map Exploration is being heavily focused on for V4.

	==The Nirnroute==		==The Nirnroute==

>MeemawHustlin at 22:34, 9 October 2022

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	* '''[[Oblivion:Version 3\|Version 3]]'''		* '''[[Oblivion:Version 3\|Version 3]]'''
	* '''[[Oblivion:Version 4\|Version 4]]'''		* '''[[Oblivion:Version 4\|Version 4]]'''

			==Quests==
			''Full article: [[Oblivion:Quests\|Quests]]''

			There are 208 Quests in the game, 4 "Journal-Filled" quests we can advance as far as possible without losing faction statuses, and 1 quest that cannot be started without losing faction status. A major part of the run is finding sequence breaks and optimizations to speed up how long each quest takes. The full article lists the quests that must be completed, with sub-pages per quest to thoroughly examine their quest stages and scripting.

	==Map Exploration==		==Map Exploration==
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	One of the main tasks of this part of the route is the [[Oblivion:Nirnroot Cataloging Project\|Nirnroot Cataloging Project]].		One of the main tasks of this part of the route is the [[Oblivion:Nirnroot Cataloging Project\|Nirnroot Cataloging Project]].

	~~==Quests==~~
	~~''Full article: [[Oblivion:Quests\|Quests]]''~~

	There are 208 Quests in the game, 4 "Journal-Filled" quests we can advance as far as possible without losing faction statuses, and 1 quest that cannot be started without losing faction status. A major part of the run is finding sequence breaks and optimizations to speed up how long each quest takes. The full article lists the quests that must be completed, with sub-pages per quest to thoroughly examine their quest stages and scripting.

	==Oblivion Gates==		==Oblivion Gates==

>MeemawHustlin: /* The Great Skill Grind */

2022-10-08T01:30:43Z

The Great Skill Grind

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	Getting all 21 skills to level 100 has been one of the largest parts of the run in all route versions up to this point. This is a massively complex task, requiring optimizing each skill's farming method, the order skills are focused on, balancing training levels vs. manually farmed levels, etc.		Getting all 21 skills to level 100 has been one of the largest parts of the run in all route versions up to this point. This is a massively complex task, requiring optimizing each skill's farming method, the order skills are focused on, balancing training levels vs. manually farmed levels, etc.

	Recent new discoveries have further added to the complexity of the skill grind, such as the Class Reset Glitch and the Stat Underflow Glitch, which add many more routing options to consider. The skill grind has improved significantly since Version 1, going from almost 18 hours long down to under ~~2 hours~~.		Recent new discoveries have further added to the complexity of the skill grind, such as the Class Reset Glitch and the Stat Underflow Glitch, which add many more routing options to consider. The skill grind has improved significantly since Version 1, going from almost 18 hours long down to under an hour.

	A sub-task of the skill grind is to optimize Attribute Allocation to maximize how many character level-ups and therefore training levels we can acquire using the Infinite Level-Up Glitch.		A sub-task of the skill grind is to optimize Attribute Allocation to maximize how many character level-ups and therefore training levels we can acquire using the Infinite Level-Up Glitch.

>MeemawHustlin at 03:17, 7 October 2022

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	It has recently been discovered that the different languages for the game have fairly significant differences in cutscene time. Depending on the language, some cutscenes are faster, but one single language is not always faster in every case. Because of this, we will need to compile a list of all the cutscenes that occur throughout the run and time how long they take in each language (English, Spanish, French, German, and Italian). This is going to require a lot of changes to the speedrun guide when implemented, so currently it is being pushed back to V5.		It has recently been discovered that the different languages for the game have fairly significant differences in cutscene time. Depending on the language, some cutscenes are faster, but one single language is not always faster in every case. Because of this, we will need to compile a list of all the cutscenes that occur throughout the run and time how long they take in each language (English, Spanish, French, German, and Italian). This is going to require a lot of changes to the speedrun guide when implemented, so currently it is being pushed back to V5.

			==RNG==
			''Full article: [[Oblivion:RNG\|RNG]]''

			Oblivion has tons of randomness, but there are very specific instances of RNG which theoretically can be avoided. Mitigating RNG as much as possible significantly improves the flow of the route.

>MeemawHustlin: /* Gold Farming */

2022-10-07T03:12:06Z

Gold Farming

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	''Full article: [[Oblivion:Gold Farming\|Gold Farming]]''		''Full article: [[Oblivion:Gold Farming\|Gold Farming]]''

	We have calculated that the 100% route requires approximately 425,000 Gold to be able to afford every necessary transaction in the run. Although this will change slightly each route revision, we need to determine the fastest way to acquire this much gold. In the past, gold farming has taken upwards of 20 minutes, with the time currently being under 4 minutes using an optimized variation of the Dorian Glitch. There may still be room to improve this, although given how short the farming process now is, this is no longer a high priority.		We have calculated that the 100% route requires approximately 425,000 Gold to be able to afford every necessary transaction in the run. Although this will change slightly each route revision, we need to determine the fastest way to acquire this much gold. In the past, gold farming has taken upwards of 20 minutes, with the time currently being under 2 minutes using an optimized variation of the [[Oblivion:Negative Inventory Duping\|Dorian Glitch]]. There may still be room to improve this, although given how short the farming process now is, this is no longer a high priority.

	==Items==		==Items==

>MeemawHustlin: /* Load Warping */

2022-10-07T03:10:42Z

Load Warping

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	==Load Warping==		==Load Warping==
	Load ~~warping~~ has ~~the opportunity to~~ dramatically cut the time needed to complete the 212 quests that we need to do~~. Furthermore~~, ~~it enables better interleaving of quests~~. ~~This has not~~ been ~~explored much,~~ and ~~could involve a significant rewrite~~ of ~~parts~~ of ~~the route~~.		[[Oblivion:Load Warping\|Load Warping]] has dramatically cut the time needed to complete the 212 quests that we need to do, and allows for much more intricate quest interweaving. Load Warping essentially allows us to instantly teleport to any location we have previously been. [[Oblivion:Early Arcane University Access\|Early Arcane University]] and [[Oblivion:Class Reset\|Class Reset]] are two examples of massive time saves that are only possible due to the use of Load Warping.

	==Gold Farming==		==Gold Farming==