Oblivion:Player Superposition - Revision history

>AleronLoche: Added more information about riding a horse during the glitch

2023-05-09T11:54:11Z

Added more information about riding a horse during the glitch

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	* Traveling long distances outdoors seems to occasionally cause the game to crash. This is similar to behavior noted when traveling too fast during [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]], which means the crash may be due to the game trying to load multiple zones at once.		* Traveling long distances outdoors seems to occasionally cause the game to crash. This is similar to behavior noted when traveling too fast during [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]], which means the crash may be due to the game trying to load multiple zones at once.
	* The fact that the initial player speed is permanently retained on the third-person camera could be massively exploitable for [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]].		* The fact that the initial player speed is permanently retained on the third-person camera could be massively exploitable for [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]].
			* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_khb52RwLl4 A similar effect can be observed] by killing the horse a guard is riding on. The visible model of the guard will remain on the floor, but the desynced body of the guard that is invisible will chase you around and hit you. You can hit and interact with both the visible and invisible bodies of the guard.
	* Mounting a horse during this glitch produces some strange effects:		* Mounting a horse during this glitch produces some strange effects:
	** The player is initially locked into place in front of the horse. Opening the pause menu and then closing it cancels this state and the mounting animation is played.		** The player is initially locked into place in front of the horse. Opening the pause menu and then closing it cancels this state and the mounting animation is played.
	** Moving while activating the sigil stone will cause the character model in the third-person view to repeatedly slide back and forth on the horse but has no actual effect on the player's position.
	** The first and third-person camera will no longer be desynced but the floating menu overlay will remain.		** The first and third-person camera will no longer be desynced but the floating menu overlay will remain.
	** ~~The horse will initially be unable to move forwards but repeatedly jumping~~ while ~~trying to move forwards~~ will cause the ~~horse~~ to ~~move~~ and ~~build up speed, [https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/1076489764661891073 more than it naturally~~ has~~], especially when also holding one of~~ the ~~sideways movement keys~~.		** Moving while activating the Sigil Stone will cause the character model in the third-person view to repeatedly slide back and forth on the horse but has no actual effect on the player's position.
	** The torso of the character model preview from the floating menu will start spinning around. ~~This seems~~ to ~~be related~~ to ~~the speed of the horse.~~		** The torso of the character model preview from the floating menu will start spinning around.
	* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=~~_khb52RwLl4 A similar effect can~~ be ~~observed]~~ by ~~killing~~ the horse ~~a guard~~ is ~~riding on~~. The ~~visible model of~~ the ~~guard will remain on~~ the ~~floor~~, ~~but~~ the ~~desynced body of~~ the ~~guard that is invisible will chase~~ you ~~around~~ and ~~hit you~~. ~~You can hit and interact with both~~ the ~~visible~~ and ~~invisible bodies~~ of the ~~guard~~.		** The horse is initially unable to run but it is possible to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xte6C3h_350 build up great speed] on a horse with this glitch.
			** The horses friction with the ground, speed and direction seems to be affected by the animation the horse is currently in. The animation state is frozen but gets updated to match whatever the horse is doing by pausing and unpausing the game or touching the ground. The horse only seems to be able to touch the ground while in the running or standing still animation, and seems to hover above the ground while in the jumping animation.
			** By locking the horse into the jumping animation, you can make it hover above the ground and go very fast, although it is difficult to steer it.
			** The direction of the velocity also seems to be affected by the horses animation state: locking it to the animation of going backwards and falling of a slope makes it go quickly in reverse, though it doesn't seem to be possible to reach the same speeds as when going forwards.

	==Mechanics==		==Mechanics==

>Protoshy at 17:27, 26 February 2023

2023-02-26T17:27:33Z

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>AleronLoche at 09:22, 24 February 2023

2023-02-24T09:22:06Z

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	** The first and third-person camera will no longer be desynced but the floating menu overlay will remain.		** The first and third-person camera will no longer be desynced but the floating menu overlay will remain.
	** The horse will initially be unable to move forwards but repeatedly jumping while trying to move forwards will cause the horse to move and build up speed, [https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/1076489764661891073 more than it naturally has], especially when also holding one of the sideways movement keys.		** The horse will initially be unable to move forwards but repeatedly jumping while trying to move forwards will cause the horse to move and build up speed, [https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/1076489764661891073 more than it naturally has], especially when also holding one of the sideways movement keys.
	** The torso of the character model preview from the floating menu will start spinning around. This seems to be related to the speed and~~/or rotation~~ of the ~~horse~~.		** The torso of the character model preview from the floating menu will start spinning around. This seems to be related to the speed of the horse.
			* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_khb52RwLl4 A similar effect can be observed] by killing the horse a guard is riding on. The visible model of the guard will remain on the floor, but the desynced body of the guard that is invisible will chase you around and hit you. You can hit and interact with both the visible and invisible bodies of the guard.

	==Mechanics==		==Mechanics==
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	[[Oblivion:Chair Clipping\|Chair Clipping]] to synchronize the player's position on the first-person body to get out of jail seems to not trigger guards to think you have escaped. This may imply that you can use Player Superposition to skip past triggers and access unintended game states.		[[Oblivion:Chair Clipping\|Chair Clipping]] to synchronize the player's position on the first-person body to get out of jail seems to not trigger guards to think you have escaped. This may imply that you can use Player Superposition to skip past triggers and access unintended game states.

			Only your first-person body can interact with things (although the interaction can be initiated from third-person view). However, NPCs who attempt to interact with you do so via your third-person character. This makes the glitch different from the aforementioned [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_khb52RwLl4 similar glitch] with killing horses that guards are riding on, in which you can interact with both desynced bodies of the guard. However, it may be theoretically possible for NPCs to also interact with the first-person character of the player only that they for some reason prioritize interacting with the third-person one. Also, the desynced guard is able to attack while the player isn't during the effects of this glitch.

	==Related Glitches==		==Related Glitches==

	* The [[Oblivion:Menu Float\|Menu Float]] is required to set this glitch up.		* The [[Oblivion:Menu Float\|Menu Float]] is required to set this glitch up.

>MeemawHustlin at 09:09, 20 February 2023

2023-02-20T09:09:45Z

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	\|category = Menu Float		\|category = Menu Float/Door Warping
	\|aka = Astral Projection		\|aka = Astral Projection
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>AleronLoche at 16:05, 19 February 2023

2023-02-19T16:05:04Z

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	* If you get teleported to another cell via getting arrested or a scripted sequence, your first-person position will still be displaced, meaning you could stand anywhere you want prior to one of these scripted teleports occurring to manipulate where your first-person body will be.		* If you get teleported to another cell via getting arrested or a scripted sequence, your first-person position will still be displaced, meaning you could stand anywhere you want prior to one of these scripted teleports occurring to manipulate where your first-person body will be.
	* Traveling long distances outdoors seems to occasionally cause the game to crash. This is similar to behavior noted when traveling too fast during [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]], which means the crash may be due to the game trying to load multiple zones at once.		* Traveling long distances outdoors seems to occasionally cause the game to crash. This is similar to behavior noted when traveling too fast during [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]], which means the crash may be due to the game trying to load multiple zones at once.
	* The fact that the initial player speed is permanently retained on the third-person camera could be massively exploitable for [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]]. It has ~~been observed that horses actually gain~~ speed ~~that was never there to begin with in~~ [https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/1076489764661891073 ~~some situations~~].		* The fact that the initial player speed is permanently retained on the third-person camera could be massively exploitable for [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]].
			* Mounting a horse during this glitch produces some strange effects:
			** The player is initially locked into place in front of the horse. Opening the pause menu and then closing it cancels this state and the mounting animation is played.
			** Moving while activating the sigil stone will cause the character model in the third-person view to repeatedly slide back and forth on the horse but has no actual effect on the player's position.
			** The first and third-person camera will no longer be desynced but the floating menu overlay will remain.
			** The horse will initially be unable to move forwards but repeatedly jumping while trying to move forwards will cause the horse to move and build up speed, [https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/1076489764661891073 more than it naturally has], especially when also holding one of the sideways movement keys.
			** The torso of the character model preview from the floating menu will start spinning around. This seems to be related to the speed and/or rotation of the horse.

	==Mechanics==		==Mechanics==

>MeemawHustlin: /* Additional Notes */

2023-02-19T04:05:16Z

Additional Notes

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	* If you get teleported to another cell via getting arrested or a scripted sequence, your first-person position will still be displaced, meaning you could stand anywhere you want prior to one of these scripted teleports occurring to manipulate where your first-person body will be.		* If you get teleported to another cell via getting arrested or a scripted sequence, your first-person position will still be displaced, meaning you could stand anywhere you want prior to one of these scripted teleports occurring to manipulate where your first-person body will be.
	* Traveling long distances outdoors seems to occasionally cause the game to crash. This is similar to behavior noted when traveling too fast during [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]], which means the crash may be due to the game trying to load multiple zones at once.		* Traveling long distances outdoors seems to occasionally cause the game to crash. This is similar to behavior noted when traveling too fast during [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]], which means the crash may be due to the game trying to load multiple zones at once.
	* The fact that the initial player speed is permanently retained on the third-person camera could be massively exploitable for [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]]. It has been observed that horses actually gain speed that was never there to begin with in [https://~~cdn.discordapp~~.com/~~attachments~~/892473620989898805/~~1076489763953049691/horse2.mp4~~ some situations].		* The fact that the initial player speed is permanently retained on the third-person camera could be massively exploitable for [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]]. It has been observed that horses actually gain speed that was never there to begin with in [https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/1076489764661891073 some situations].

	==Mechanics==		==Mechanics==

>MeemawHustlin: /* Additional Notes */

2023-02-19T04:04:56Z

Additional Notes

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	* Setting up this glitch while moving and then activating a Daedric Shrine will allow you to freely move around while the cutscene plays. This could be useful in finding ways of skipping or minimizing the time loss of [[Oblivion:Cutscenes\|Cutscenes]].		* Setting up this glitch while moving and then activating a Daedric Shrine will allow you to freely move around while the cutscene plays. This could be useful in finding ways of skipping or minimizing the time loss of [[Oblivion:Cutscenes\|Cutscenes]].
	* If you get teleported to another cell via getting arrested or a scripted sequence, your first-person position will still be displaced, meaning you could stand anywhere you want prior to one of these scripted teleports occurring to manipulate where your first-person body will be.		* If you get teleported to another cell via getting arrested or a scripted sequence, your first-person position will still be displaced, meaning you could stand anywhere you want prior to one of these scripted teleports occurring to manipulate where your first-person body will be.
			* Traveling long distances outdoors seems to occasionally cause the game to crash. This is similar to behavior noted when traveling too fast during [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]], which means the crash may be due to the game trying to load multiple zones at once.
			* The fact that the initial player speed is permanently retained on the third-person camera could be massively exploitable for [[Oblivion:Map Exploration\|Map Exploration]]. It has been observed that horses actually gain speed that was never there to begin with in [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892473620989898805/1076489763953049691/horse2.mp4 some situations].

	==Mechanics==		==Mechanics==

>MeemawHustlin: /* Mechanics */

2023-02-19T03:57:24Z

Mechanics

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	==Mechanics==		==Mechanics==
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			No other overlapping UI elements cause this glitch to happen, so it is very unusual that the Sigil Stone specifically works. We have no idea currently why this is.

	[[Oblivion:Chair Clipping\|Chair Clipping]] to synchronize the player's position on the first-person body to get out of jail seems to not trigger guards to think you have escaped. This may imply that you can use Player Superposition to skip past triggers and access unintended game states.		[[Oblivion:Chair Clipping\|Chair Clipping]] to synchronize the player's position on the first-person body to get out of jail seems to not trigger guards to think you have escaped. This may imply that you can use Player Superposition to skip past triggers and access unintended game states.

>MeemawHustlin: /* Mechanics */

2023-02-19T03:56:41Z

Mechanics

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	==Mechanics==		==Mechanics==
	{{GlitchResearchBox}}		{{GlitchResearchBox}}

			[[Oblivion:Chair Clipping\|Chair Clipping]] to synchronize the player's position on the first-person body to get out of jail seems to not trigger guards to think you have escaped. This may imply that you can use Player Superposition to skip past triggers and access unintended game states.

	==Related Glitches==		==Related Glitches==

	* The [[Oblivion:Menu Float\|Menu Float]] is required to set this glitch up.		* The [[Oblivion:Menu Float\|Menu Float]] is required to set this glitch up.

>MeemawHustlin: /* Additional Notes */

2023-02-19T03:54:55Z

Additional Notes

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	* Using Q to auto run makes it much easier to perform the moving third-person camera setup.		* Using Q to auto run makes it much easier to perform the moving third-person camera setup.
			* You can quickly start/stop a [[Oblivion:Chair Clipping\|Chair Clip]] setup to force the player to synchronize at the position of the first-person body instead of the third-person camera if there is a chair nearby.
	* Using the console command button will allow you to interact with your floating inventory as well, but in a speedrun this would be considered cheating as per the [[Oblivion:Overview#Rules_for_Speedrunning\|rules]].		* Using the console command button will allow you to interact with your floating inventory as well, but in a speedrun this would be considered cheating as per the [[Oblivion:Overview#Rules_for_Speedrunning\|rules]].
	* Setting up this glitch while moving and then activating a Daedric Shrine will allow you to freely move around while the cutscene plays. This could be useful in finding ways of skipping or minimizing the time loss of [[Oblivion:Cutscenes\|Cutscenes]].		* Setting up this glitch while moving and then activating a Daedric Shrine will allow you to freely move around while the cutscene plays. This could be useful in finding ways of skipping or minimizing the time loss of [[Oblivion:Cutscenes\|Cutscenes]].