Oblivion:Hand to Hand Training - Revision history

>MeemawHustlin: /* Route Logic Considerations */

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Route Logic Considerations

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	* Davela Hlaren is also a merchant, so she should be invested in while talking to her.		* Davela Hlaren is also a merchant, so she should be invested in while talking to her.
	* The skill book ''Calcinator Treatsie [Alchemy]'' should be read in the Imperial Bridge Inn while doing this quest.		* The skill book ''Calcinator Treatsie [Alchemy]'' should be read in the Imperial Bridge Inn while doing this quest.
	* ~~Lithnilian is also in the Imperial Bridge Inn, so~~ No Stone Unturned should be done when you talk to Davela Hlaren.		* [[Oblivion:No Stone Unturned\|No Stone Unturned]] should be done when you talk to Davela Hlaren since Lithnilian is also in the Imperial Bridge Inn.
	* Like all the Master Training quests, the actual Master Trainer needs to be alive prior to starting the quest in order to be able to complete it.		* Like all the Master Training quests, the actual Master Trainer needs to be alive prior to starting the quest in order to be able to complete it.
	* Davela Hlaren in the Imperial Bridge Inn and Ra'qanar in Castle Cheydinhal can both start this quest. Although you could technically talk to Ra'qanar while at Castle Cheydinhal during other quests, you have to talk to Davela Hlaren directly anyway to invest in her, so it is fastest to start this quest while already talking to her.		* Davela Hlaren in the Imperial Bridge Inn and Ra'qanar in Castle Cheydinhal can both start this quest. Although you could technically talk to Ra'qanar while at Castle Cheydinhal during other quests, you have to talk to Davela Hlaren directly anyway to invest in her, so it is fastest to start this quest while already talking to her.

>MeemawHustlin: /* Quest Stages */

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Quest Stages

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>MeemawHustlin at 05:51, 10 October 2022

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	''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.''		''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.''

	# ~~Talk~~ to ~~NPC:~~		# In the Imperial Bridge Inn, cast a spell to raise Hand to Hand to 70+ and immediately talk to Davela Hlaren.
	#* ''~~↳ speech option that sets stage~~'' '''(10)'''		#: ↳ ''Training.'' '''(10)'''
	# ~~Perform action~~. '''(✔ ~~100~~)'''		# Fast travel to the Quest Marker and kill Helvius Cecia. '''(✔ 200)'''

	==Bugs==		==Bugs==

	~~Currently there are no known bugs associated with this~~ quest ~~that affect the 100% route~~.		* Killing Helvius Cecia before doing [[Oblivion:Turning a Blind Eye\|Turning a Blind Eye]] will make it potentially impossible to complete Turning a Blind Eye. See that quest page for more info.

	==Route Logic Considerations==		==Route Logic Considerations==

	~~There~~ are ~~no significant route logic considerations for~~ this quest.		* Killing Helvius Cecia during this quest will potentially cause [[Oblivion:Turning a Blind Eye\|Turning a Blind Eye]] to become impossible to finish, so this quest should be done until right after that one while you are already at Helvius Cecia's House.
			* Davela Hlaren is also a merchant, so she should be invested in while talking to her.
	*		* The skill book ''Calcinator Treatsie [Alchemy]'' should be read in the Imperial Bridge Inn while doing this quest.
	*		* Lithnilian is also in the Imperial Bridge Inn, so No Stone Unturned should be done when you talk to Davela Hlaren.
	*		* Like all the Master Training quests, the actual Master Trainer needs to be alive prior to starting the quest in order to be able to complete it.
			* Davela Hlaren in the Imperial Bridge Inn and Ra'qanar in Castle Cheydinhal can both start this quest. Although you could technically talk to Ra'qanar while at Castle Cheydinhal during other quests, you have to talk to Davela Hlaren directly anyway to invest in her, so it is fastest to start this quest while already talking to her.

	==Script Analysis==		==Script Analysis==
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	\|\| Helvius Cecia is dead. I have no chance to be taught more about Hand to Hand combat now.		\|\| Helvius Cecia is dead. I have no chance to be taught more about Hand to Hand combat now.
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>Brian Bosch: Created page with "==Current Best Route== ''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.'' # Talk to NPC: #* ''↳ speech option that sets stage'' '''(10)''' # Perform action. '''(✔ 100)''' ==Bugs== Currently there are no known b..."

2022-06-02T04:44:46Z

Created page with "==Current Best Route== ''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.'' # Talk to NPC: #* ''↳ speech option that sets stage'' '''(10)''' # Perform action. '''(✔ 100)''' ==Bugs== Currently there are no known b..."

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==Current Best Route==

''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.''

# Talk to NPC:
#* ''↳ speech option that sets stage'' '''(10)'''
# Perform action. '''(✔ 100)'''

==Bugs==

Currently there are no known bugs associated with this quest that affect the 100% route.

==Route Logic Considerations==

There are no significant route logic considerations for this quest.

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==Script Analysis==

No script analysis has been done for this quest.

==Quest Stages==

{| class="wikitable"
|+ Hand to Hand Training (TrainingHandtoHand)
|-
! Stage !! Finish !! setstage Scripts !! Journal Entry
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 10
| style="text-align:center;" |
| style="text-align:center;" |
|| I need to speak with Helvius Cecia in Bruma about training hand to hand combat.
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 20
| style="text-align:center;" |
| style="text-align:center;" |
|| I must prove my worthiness to Helvius Cecia before he will consider training me. He's asked that I hit him as hard as I can.
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 100
| style="text-align:center;" | ✔
| style="text-align:center;" |
|| Helvius Cecia has agreed to train me.
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 200
| style="text-align:center;" | ✔
| style="text-align:center;" |
|| Helvius Cecia is dead. I have no chance to be taught more about Hand to Hand combat now.
|}