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Ultrapotassium: /* Possibly useful bugs */ add couple routing suggestions

2026-05-14T05:17:04Z

Possibly useful bugs: add couple routing suggestions

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	now all those scholars are marauding in skingrad with their bounded weapons equipped but without attacking anyone		now all those scholars are marauding in skingrad with their bounded weapons equipped but without attacking anyone

			===Routing===
			[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/644112615718780940/1025181692312424548 AleronLoche - 2022-09-29 4:06 PM]
			you don't actually have to take the amulet of kings from Mankar, you get it either way when you get the quest popup

			[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/644112615718780940/1025229777323425802 dingus — 9/29/2022 7:17 PM]
			There's a very convenient saddle point for the Ayleid statue in Fanacas. The player runs right past the stool next to Denel during Vahtacen's Secret, and it takes you to just below the statue room, which you can easily swim down to void warp in.

>Protoshy at 19:38, 22 March 2025

2025-03-22T19:38:14Z

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	Many times when loading a save or transiting cells a load screen will sometimes appear. This load screen interferes with a recently discovered glitch, [[Oblivion:Quicksave Activation Transfer\|Quicksave Activation Transfer]], that can be used to talk to NPCs without warping the leading save file away. Currently it's useful for talking to NPCs in nearby cells, but could be used to talk to NPCs in nearly any cell if circumventing load screens is possible, or if it's possible to maintain the glitch despite a load screen appearing.		Many times when loading a save or transiting cells a load screen will sometimes appear. This load screen interferes with a recently discovered glitch, [[Oblivion:Quicksave Activation Transfer\|Quicksave Activation Transfer]], that can be used to talk to NPCs without warping the leading save file away. Currently it's useful for talking to NPCs in nearby cells, but could be used to talk to NPCs in nearly any cell if circumventing load screens is possible, or if it's possible to maintain the glitch despite a load screen appearing.

	Our best guess for how the load screen works is based on whether the cell being transited to is already loaded into memory. Any time there's not enough memory to load in the another cell to memory, the oldest information gets cleared. And any time after a save is loaded, ALL information in memory is cleared. Ideally there's a simple way to force a cell to remain loaded.		Our best guess for how the load screen works is based on whether the cell being transited to is already loaded into memory. Any time there's not enough memory to load in the another cell to memory, the oldest information gets cleared. And any time after a save is loaded or possibly after fast traveling, ALL information in memory is cleared. Ideally there's a simple way to force a cell to remain loaded.

	==Possibly useful bugs==		==Possibly useful bugs==

>Protoshy: Load Screen Manipulation section added

2025-03-22T18:48:41Z

Load Screen Manipulation section added

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	In the construction set, each interior has a flag that can be checked or unchecked for allowing fast travel from that location. The only interiors that have fast travel enabled are the houses the player can own. Ideally we would find a way to trick the game into thinking we are in an outdoor cell or one of the player homes when we actually are not, resulting in enabled fast travel. Load Warping seems to be the most likely source of a glitch like this, particularly experimenting with making saves mid-Load Warp, something that inconsistently crashes the game and has been otherwise unexplored.		In the construction set, each interior has a flag that can be checked or unchecked for allowing fast travel from that location. The only interiors that have fast travel enabled are the houses the player can own. Ideally we would find a way to trick the game into thinking we are in an outdoor cell or one of the player homes when we actually are not, resulting in enabled fast travel. Load Warping seems to be the most likely source of a glitch like this, particularly experimenting with making saves mid-Load Warp, something that inconsistently crashes the game and has been otherwise unexplored.

			==Load Screen Manipulation==

			Many times when loading a save or transiting cells a load screen will sometimes appear. This load screen interferes with a recently discovered glitch, [[Oblivion:Quicksave Activation Transfer\|Quicksave Activation Transfer]], that can be used to talk to NPCs without warping the leading save file away. Currently it's useful for talking to NPCs in nearby cells, but could be used to talk to NPCs in nearly any cell if circumventing load screens is possible, or if it's possible to maintain the glitch despite a load screen appearing.

			Our best guess for how the load screen works is based on whether the cell being transited to is already loaded into memory. Any time there's not enough memory to load in the another cell to memory, the oldest information gets cleared. And any time after a save is loaded, ALL information in memory is cleared. Ideally there's a simple way to force a cell to remain loaded.

	==Possibly useful bugs==		==Possibly useful bugs==

Ultrapotassium: /* Horse Out of Bounds in City (Stable Spawn Location Manipulation) */

2025-03-14T21:53:30Z

Horse Out of Bounds in City (Stable Spawn Location Manipulation)

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	The final part of the problem will simply be getting the horse out of the bounds of the city once inside. [https://youtu.be/vuzcObuUwGc This video] makes Cheydinhal look very promising if we can get the Anvil Wabbajack setup to work there too. This channel also has several other videos about how to get out of most other cities as well. On stream, we managed to jump out of Anvil on a horse after applying speed buffs to it.		The final part of the problem will simply be getting the horse out of the bounds of the city once inside. [https://youtu.be/vuzcObuUwGc This video] makes Cheydinhal look very promising if we can get the Anvil Wabbajack setup to work there too. This channel also has several other videos about how to get out of most other cities as well. On stream, we managed to jump out of Anvil on a horse after applying speed buffs to it.
			=== Horse into city===
			[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/961102573564219412 AleronLoche — 2022-04-05 8:18 PM]: This probably isn't useful since you're not doing horse vectors but I found an easy way to get a horse into a city, including Shadowmere. You just cast a command creature spell on the horse, commit a crime, pay fine/go to jail and then when you get out of the prison the horse will be there inside the city

			[8:19 PM]AleronLoche: Also doing the same thing on Mannimarco but with command humanoid is interesting because when you talk to him and finish his dialogue he'll cast a spell on you which enables player controls, so it could potentially be used for skipping cutscenes. It would probably be too hard to get him to the cutscene trigger though since he won't follow you after you get out of jail

	==Daedric Shrine Cutscene Skips==		==Daedric Shrine Cutscene Skips==

Ultrapotassium: Remove rng manipulation full article since it doesnt exist. Add valarnin comments.

2025-03-14T21:51:01Z

Remove rng manipulation full article since it doesnt exist. Add valarnin comments.

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 ==RNG Manipulation==
-''Full article: [[Oblivion:RNG Manipulation|RNG Manipulation]]''
+Finding random skill books is annoying and RNG heavy. We can potentially lose a lot of time if we get bad RNG finding skill books, so ideally we would have a way to manipulate what drops we get.
-Finding random skill books is annoying and RNG heavy. We can potentially lose a lot of time if we get bad RNG finding skill books, so ideally we would have a way to manipulate what drops we get. If you are interested in researching how this works, refer to the full article.
+[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/901258344541589534 valarnin — 2021-10-22 4:58 PM]
 =="Valid" Ayleid Statue Dupes==

Ultrapotassium: add chameleon fast travel info

2025-03-14T21:40:07Z

add chameleon fast travel info

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	In the construction set, each interior has a flag that can be checked or unchecked for allowing fast travel from that location. The only interiors that have fast travel enabled are the houses the player can own. Ideally we would find a way to trick the game into thinking we are in an outdoor cell or one of the player homes when we actually are not, resulting in enabled fast travel. Load Warping seems to be the most likely source of a glitch like this, particularly experimenting with making saves mid-Load Warp, something that inconsistently crashes the game and has been otherwise unexplored.		In the construction set, each interior has a flag that can be checked or unchecked for allowing fast travel from that location. The only interiors that have fast travel enabled are the houses the player can own. Ideally we would find a way to trick the game into thinking we are in an outdoor cell or one of the player homes when we actually are not, resulting in enabled fast travel. Load Warping seems to be the most likely source of a glitch like this, particularly experimenting with making saves mid-Load Warp, something that inconsistently crashes the game and has been otherwise unexplored.

	==Skull of Corruption==		==Possibly useful bugs==
			===Skull of Corruption===
	[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/898274203789328434 Fevus — 2021-10-14 11:20 AM]		[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/898274203789328434 Fevus — 2021-10-14 11:20 AM]
	if we get the skull of corruption and staff of worms and decide to dupe "missing name" items, has also potential for cloning money and getting the gray agis for convinience		if we get the skull of corruption and staff of worms and decide to dupe "missing name" items, has also potential for cloning money and getting the gray agis for convinience

	==Vampirism==		===Vampirism===
	[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/892529184512016394 Fevus — 2021-09-28 2:52 PM]		[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/892529184512016394 Fevus — 2021-09-28 2:52 PM]
	found something, vampirism can be cured again with cure vampirism if the potion is cloned with skull of corruption		found something, vampirism can be cured again with cure vampirism if the potion is cloned with skull of corruption

			===Chameleon===
			[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/916437823018663966 brianbosch — 2021-12-03 1:16 PM]
			while being 100 chameleon, if you attack npcs and fast travel it's possible that they will spawn with you, i just attacked every scholar in the arcane university with a conjuration farming spell that had turn undead in it, and they started fleeing, then i fast travelled to skingrad and entered the mages guild, and in that moment all the scholar spawned there too, they went outside, i followed them and they started chasing a guard. this is something i've seen regularly, when you attack an npc with chameleon on, they start chasing someone else but not necesarily attack them. the following part is new to me, to a point where they even spawn in other cities with you

			glarthir approached me and was able to talk to me while being chameleon

			now all those scholars are marauding in skingrad with their bounded weapons equipped but without attacking anyone

Ultrapotassium: add vampirism double cure

2025-03-14T21:37:16Z

add vampirism double cure

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	[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/898274203789328434 Fevus — 2021-10-14 11:20 AM]		[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/898274203789328434 Fevus — 2021-10-14 11:20 AM]
	if we get the skull of corruption and staff of worms and decide to dupe "missing name" items, has also potential for cloning money and getting the gray agis for convinience		if we get the skull of corruption and staff of worms and decide to dupe "missing name" items, has also potential for cloning money and getting the gray agis for convinience

			==Vampirism==
			[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/892529184512016394 Fevus — 2021-09-28 2:52 PM]
			found something, vampirism can be cured again with cure vampirism if the potion is cloned with skull of corruption

Ultrapotassium: add fevus staff of corruption dupe comment

2025-03-14T21:36:18Z

add fevus staff of corruption dupe comment

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	In the construction set, each interior has a flag that can be checked or unchecked for allowing fast travel from that location. The only interiors that have fast travel enabled are the houses the player can own. Ideally we would find a way to trick the game into thinking we are in an outdoor cell or one of the player homes when we actually are not, resulting in enabled fast travel. Load Warping seems to be the most likely source of a glitch like this, particularly experimenting with making saves mid-Load Warp, something that inconsistently crashes the game and has been otherwise unexplored.		In the construction set, each interior has a flag that can be checked or unchecked for allowing fast travel from that location. The only interiors that have fast travel enabled are the houses the player can own. Ideally we would find a way to trick the game into thinking we are in an outdoor cell or one of the player homes when we actually are not, resulting in enabled fast travel. Load Warping seems to be the most likely source of a glitch like this, particularly experimenting with making saves mid-Load Warp, something that inconsistently crashes the game and has been otherwise unexplored.

	==~~Ten Ancestors~~==		==Skull of Corruption==
	~~see~~ [~~[Ten Ancestors]~~]		[https://discord.com/channels/330252789374779393/892473620989898805/898274203789328434 Fevus — 2021-10-14 11:20 AM]
			if we get the skull of corruption and staff of worms and decide to dupe "missing name" items, has also potential for cloning money and getting the gray agis for convinience

Ultrapotassium: /* "Valid" Ayleid Statue Dupes */

2025-03-14T21:33:45Z

"Valid" Ayleid Statue Dupes

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	* Discovering how to do this would have further implications for similar quests such as Bear Season.		* Discovering how to do this would have further implications for similar quests such as Bear Season.
	* The Lucien Dupe mentioned in the Glitch Archaeology section might work for this. Ayleid statues actually have two different item IDs, <code>0002AB48</code> and <code>000844C4</code>, with the second one being weightless. It is possible the second one is actually the version that gets placed in the display case.		* The Lucien Dupe mentioned in the Glitch Archaeology section might work for this. Ayleid statues actually have two different item IDs, <code>0002AB48</code> and <code>000844C4</code>, with the second one being weightless. It is possible the second one is actually the version that gets placed in the display case.

			see [[Ten Ancestors]] for more

	==Havrd Escort Optimizations==		==Havrd Escort Optimizations==

Ultrapotassium at 21:32, 14 March 2025

2025-03-14T21:32:54Z

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	In the construction set, each interior has a flag that can be checked or unchecked for allowing fast travel from that location. The only interiors that have fast travel enabled are the houses the player can own. Ideally we would find a way to trick the game into thinking we are in an outdoor cell or one of the player homes when we actually are not, resulting in enabled fast travel. Load Warping seems to be the most likely source of a glitch like this, particularly experimenting with making saves mid-Load Warp, something that inconsistently crashes the game and has been otherwise unexplored.		In the construction set, each interior has a flag that can be checked or unchecked for allowing fast travel from that location. The only interiors that have fast travel enabled are the houses the player can own. Ideally we would find a way to trick the game into thinking we are in an outdoor cell or one of the player homes when we actually are not, resulting in enabled fast travel. Load Warping seems to be the most likely source of a glitch like this, particularly experimenting with making saves mid-Load Warp, something that inconsistently crashes the game and has been otherwise unexplored.

			==Ten Ancestors==
			see [[Ten Ancestors]]