Oblivion:Class Reset - Revision history

>AleronLoche: Added the hotkey buffering setup

2023-08-10T13:41:53Z

Added the hotkey buffering setup

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	* You can repeat this version of the setup an infinite number of times on any character, making it extremely versatile.		* You can repeat this version of the setup an infinite number of times on any character, making it extremely versatile.
	* The only downside is that this setup requires a frame perfect trick, which is really difficult to perform consistently.		* The only downside is that this setup requires a frame perfect trick, which is really difficult to perform consistently.
			** The frame perfect trick can be avoided by using a different setup: hotkey an item that opens an interface such as a book, then press that hotkey right before interacting with the sewer gate. When you then select the desired choice of Class/Race/Birthsign, the item interface will open. You can now simply load the save you wish to perform the reset on. This trick is much more lenient but is yet to be tested to ensure that it has no unforeseen side effects.

	===Sewer Reset===		===Sewer Reset===

>MeemawHustlin at 03:52, 7 October 2022

2022-10-07T03:52:02Z

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	'''Class Reset''' is a glitch that ~~results~~ in the player's skills and attributes being ~~reset whenever they alter their character build. The values of each reset stat are~~ scaled up based on the player's level~~, resulting in much higher values than the player likely originally had~~. ~~Another useful aspect of this~~ glitch ~~is that you are able~~ to ~~alter~~ your character's Class/Race/Birthsign repeatedly at any point.		'''Class Reset''' is a glitch that allows the player to change their class/race at any point in the game, resulting in the player's skills and attributes being scaled up based on the player's level. This glitch can be activated to reset your character's Class/Race/Birthsign repeatedly at any point.

	==Instructions==		==Instructions==

>MeemawHustlin at 03:48, 7 October 2022

2022-10-07T03:48:55Z

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	'''Class Reset''' is a glitch that results in the player's skills and attributes being reset whenever they alter their character build. The values of each reset stat are scaled up based on the player's level, resulting in much higher values than the player likely originally had. ~~An extended use~~ of this glitch is ~~to be~~ able to alter your character's Class/Race/Birthsign repeatedly at any point.		'''Class Reset''' is a glitch that results in the player's skills and attributes being reset whenever they alter their character build. The values of each reset stat are scaled up based on the player's level, resulting in much higher values than the player likely originally had. Another useful aspect of this glitch is that you are able to alter your character's Class/Race/Birthsign repeatedly at any point.

	==Instructions==		==Instructions==

>MeemawHustlin: /* Stat Scaling/Effect Behavior */

2022-03-09T02:30:35Z

Stat Scaling/Effect Behavior

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	#** This means that depending on your major skills, all attributes aside from Luck could receive a boost of +0.6, +1.4, +2.2, or +3.0 per character level.		#** This means that depending on your major skills, all attributes aside from Luck could receive a boost of +0.6, +1.4, +2.2, or +3.0 per character level.
	#* Attribute values are capped at 100, and then Birthsigns affects are added, meaning you can get attributes above 100 depending on Birthsign.		#* Attribute values are capped at 100, and then Birthsigns affects are added, meaning you can get attributes above 100 depending on Birthsign.
			#* Other stat bonuses gained from leveling and choosing certain attributes (such as gaining health from raising Endurance) are not decreased when that attribute is reset.
	# If you have Vampirism, it will be removed if you changed your race during the reset, but the game will still think you are a Vampire when interacting with NPCs or attempting to get Vampirism again.		# If you have Vampirism, it will be removed if you changed your race during the reset, but the game will still think you are a Vampire when interacting with NPCs or attempting to get Vampirism again.
	#* Changing gender does not remove Vampirism.		#* Changing gender does not remove Vampirism.

>MeemawHustlin at 02:55, 25 January 2022

2022-01-25T02:55:54Z

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	\|v12 = ?		\|v12 = ?
	\|v121 = ✔		\|v121 = ✔
	\|foundby = Fevus (Repeatable Sewer Reset ~~variation~~ by MeemawHustlin)		\|foundby = Fevus (Repeatable Sewer Reset by MeemawHustlin)
	\|datefound = 9/23/2021		\|datefound = 9/23/2021
	\|archaeologist		\|archaeologist = N/A
	\|archdate		\|archdate = N/A
	\|source = https://discordapp.com/channels/330252789374779393/338176166051708929/890574528563003482		\|source = https://discordapp.com/channels/330252789374779393/338176166051708929/890574528563003482
	}}		}}

>MeemawHustlin: /* Additional Info */

2022-01-25T02:37:47Z

Additional Info

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	===Additional Info===		===Additional Info===

	* The purpose of all of this is to call <code>showclassmenu</code>, <code>showracemenu</code>, and <code>showbirthsignmenu</code>. These commands only appears twice in the game, triggered by Baurus and by the sewer exit.		* The purpose of all of this is to call <code>showclassmenu</code>, <code>showracemenu</code>, and <code>showbirthsignmenu</code>. These commands only appears twice in the game, triggered by Baurus during the tutorial, and by the sewer exit.

>MeemawHustlin at 02:30, 25 January 2022

2022-01-25T02:30:21Z

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	'''Class Reset''' is a glitch that results in the player's skills and attributes being reset whenever they alter their character build. The values of each reset stat are scaled up based on the player's level, resulting in much higher values than the player likely originally had.		'''Class Reset''' is a glitch that results in the player's skills and attributes being reset whenever they alter their character build. The values of each reset stat are scaled up based on the player's level, resulting in much higher values than the player likely originally had. An extended use of this glitch is to be able to alter your character's Class/Race/Birthsign repeatedly at any point.

	==Instructions==		==Instructions==

>MeemawHustlin: /* Repeatable Sewer Reset */

2022-01-25T02:28:34Z

Repeatable Sewer Reset

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	# Load the save from step 2. Attempt to exit the tutorial sewer. The popup appears for finalizing your character creation choices.		# Load the save from step 2. Attempt to exit the tutorial sewer. The popup appears for finalizing your character creation choices.
	# Select the desired choice of Class/Race/Birthsign to reset. Keep in mind this reset is going to be applied to the leveled version of your character, not the current character.		# Select the desired choice of Class/Race/Birthsign to reset. Keep in mind this reset is going to be applied to the leveled version of your character, not the current character.
	# ~~Press Escape~~ on the 1 frame of actionable gameplay between when the sewer popup closes and the popup for the Class/Race/Birthsign menu appears.		# Bring up the pause menu on the 1 frame of actionable gameplay between when the sewer popup closes and the popup for the Class/Race/Birthsign menu appears.
	# Load the save from step 5, which is your leveled character in the tutorial sewer. The popup will now appear for this character instead of the one from the previous save file.		# Load the save from step 5, which is your leveled character in the tutorial sewer. The popup will now appear for this character instead of the one from the previous save file.
	# Depending on which options you selected from this popup, your character will have stats that are now scaled up significantly based on your player level.		# Depending on which options you selected from this popup, your character will have stats that are now scaled up significantly based on your player level.

>MeemawHustlin: /* Wait Timer Bug */

2022-01-25T02:27:33Z

Wait Timer Bug

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	This is because exiting the tutorial sewer triggers the door’s <code>CGSewerExitScript</code> script which calls <code>setstage MQ01 88</code>. This quest’s stage 88 calls a script that includes <code>setinchargen 0</code>. We have confirmed that this command is what fixes the wait timer bug by entering it as a console command on a “broken” save file and seeing that the save file is now able to wait to move NPCs again. <code>setinchargen 0</code> appears to not be present in any other scripts in the game, with the only other <code>setinchargen</code> being it set to <code>1</code> at the very start of the game. No variation of <code>setstage MQ01 88</code> or <code>set MQ01.stage to 88</code> is anywhere else in scripts either.		This is because exiting the tutorial sewer triggers the door’s <code>CGSewerExitScript</code> script which calls <code>setstage MQ01 88</code>. This quest’s stage 88 calls a script that includes <code>setinchargen 0</code>. We have confirmed that this command is what fixes the wait timer bug by entering it as a console command on a “broken” save file and seeing that the save file is now able to wait to move NPCs again. <code>setinchargen 0</code> appears to not be present in any other scripts in the game, with the only other <code>setinchargen</code> being it set to <code>1</code> at the very start of the game. No variation of <code>setstage MQ01 88</code> or <code>set MQ01.stage to 88</code> is anywhere else in scripts either.

	Manually console commanding <code>setinchargen 0</code> does not prevent the player from activating the sewer exit popup initially because the <code>CGSewerExitScript</code> allows the initial popup to to appear if <code>IsActionRef player == 1 && getstagedone MQ01 88 == 0</code>.		Manually console commanding <code>setinchargen 0</code> does not prevent the player from activating the sewer exit popup initially because the <code>CGSewerExitScript</code> allows the initial popup to appear if <code>IsActionRef player == 1 && getstagedone MQ01 88 == 0</code>.

	===Additional Info===		===Additional Info===

	* The purpose of all of this is to call <code>showclassmenu</code>, <code>showracemenu</code>, and <code>showbirthsignmenu</code>. These commands only appears twice in the game, triggered by Baurus and by the sewer exit.		* The purpose of all of this is to call <code>showclassmenu</code>, <code>showracemenu</code>, and <code>showbirthsignmenu</code>. These commands only appears twice in the game, triggered by Baurus and by the sewer exit.

>MeemawHustlin: /* Mechanics */

2022-01-25T02:22:33Z

Mechanics

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	The Repeatable Sewer variation seems to work due to a bug in how the sewer exit script <code>CGSewerExitScript</code> was programmed. Its action to detect popup menu input from the player is checked within the <code>begin gamemode</code> section of the code, meaning that during gameplay in the cell with the sewer exit object, player input is being read in regardless of if the player has activated the sewer grate or not. This explains why the player can activate this glitch while not standing near the sewer exit as long as they are in the cell that runs this object's script. Additionally, there are no conditional checks to prevent the various character creation menus from showing up if they have already been done before. By inputting a popup choice on one file and loading another file before that input is used, this appears to inject that button input into the other save file since it will immediately run the same sewer script as soon as the object loads in. Further testing needs to be done to see if other popups can be used to inject the input into this save file to get the same results, or if it only works because of both saves files reading off of the exact same popup input.		The Repeatable Sewer variation seems to work due to a bug in how the sewer exit script <code>CGSewerExitScript</code> was programmed. Its action to detect popup menu input from the player is checked within the <code>begin gamemode</code> section of the code, meaning that during gameplay in the cell with the sewer exit object, player input is being read in regardless of if the player has activated the sewer grate or not. This explains why the player can activate this glitch while not standing near the sewer exit as long as they are in the cell that runs this object's script. Additionally, there are no conditional checks to prevent the various character creation menus from showing up if they have already been done before. By inputting a popup choice on one file and loading another file before that input is used, this appears to inject that button input into the other save file since it will immediately run the same sewer script as soon as the object loads in.

			Further testing needs to be done to see if other popups can be used to inject the input into this save file to get the same results, or if it only works because of both saves files reading off of the exact same popup input. This could be checked via:

			* Injecting the “Path of Spirits” from Oghma Infinium, which gives us a <code>getbuttonpressed</code> value of <code>2</code>, matching the value needed for <code>showclassmenu</code>.
			* Choosing the Mort Flesh offering at Meridia’s Shrine when we have bonemeal, ectoplasm, and mort flesh in our inventory returns the same return value.

			===Wait Timer Bug===

			When you skip the tutorial exit via load warping, you gain access to the use of the Sewer Reset glitch but lose the ability to manipulate NPCs with the wait timer. This results in having to use an excessive amount of [[Oblivion:Time Warping\|Time Warping]] setups to spawn NPCs in the right locations, effectively making Sewer Reset more problematic than helpful in most situations.

			This is because exiting the tutorial sewer triggers the door’s <code>CGSewerExitScript</code> script which calls <code>setstage MQ01 88</code>. This quest’s stage 88 calls a script that includes <code>setinchargen 0</code>. We have confirmed that this command is what fixes the wait timer bug by entering it as a console command on a “broken” save file and seeing that the save file is now able to wait to move NPCs again. <code>setinchargen 0</code> appears to not be present in any other scripts in the game, with the only other <code>setinchargen</code> being it set to <code>1</code> at the very start of the game. No variation of <code>setstage MQ01 88</code> or <code>set MQ01.stage to 88</code> is anywhere else in scripts either.

			Manually console commanding <code>setinchargen 0</code> does not prevent the player from activating the sewer exit popup initially because the <code>CGSewerExitScript</code> allows the initial popup to to appear if <code>IsActionRef player == 1 && getstagedone MQ01 88 == 0</code>.

			===Additional Info===

			* The purpose of all of this is to call <code>showclassmenu</code>, <code>showracemenu</code>, and <code>showbirthsignmenu</code>. These commands only appears twice in the game, triggered by Baurus and by the sewer exit.