Oblivion:Alchemy Training - Revision history

>MeemawHustlin at 01:46, 10 October 2022

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	# Fast travel to Skingrad to enter the West Weald Inn.		# Fast travel to Skingrad to enter the West Weald Inn.
	# Enter the basement and talk to Sinderion.		# Enter the basement and talk to Sinderion.
	#: ↳ ''Training.''		#: ↳ ''Training.'' '''(20)'''
	#: ↳ ''Training.'' '''(✔ 100)'''		#: ↳ ''Training.'' '''(✔ 100)'''

>MeemawHustlin at 01:46, 10 October 2022

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	\|\| Sinderion is dead. It will be impossible for me to receive further Alchemy training.		\|\| Sinderion is dead. It will be impossible for me to receive further Alchemy training.
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>MeemawHustlin: /* Route Logic Considerations */

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Route Logic Considerations

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	* The Tamika Vintage 399 and Surilie Brothers Vintage 399 should be acquired before visiting Sinderion for the first time to prevent backtracking. Ideally these items should not have the stolen flag to avoid losing them throughout the run up to the point that this quest is completed. The Cloud Ruler Temple West Wing is an ideal location to acquire these items since both bottles are right next to each other (along with Cyrodilic Brandy, which is needed for [[Oblivion:Sanguine\|Sanguine]]) and do not count as stolen if you've joined the Blades. You can join the Blades right after completing [[Oblivion:Weynon Priory\|Weynon Priory]], so you should complete that quest before this one.		* The Tamika Vintage 399 and Surilie Brothers Vintage 399 should be acquired before visiting Sinderion for the first time to prevent backtracking. Ideally these items should not have the stolen flag to avoid losing them throughout the run up to the point that this quest is completed. The Cloud Ruler Temple West Wing is an ideal location to acquire these items since both bottles are right next to each other (along with Cyrodilic Brandy, which is needed for [[Oblivion:Sanguine\|Sanguine]]) and do not count as stolen if you've joined the Blades. You can join the Blades right after completing [[Oblivion:Weynon Priory\|Weynon Priory]], so you should complete that quest before this one.
	* Sinderion can be killed to complete this quest, but he is kept alive in order to finish his other quest, [[Oblivion:Seeking Your Roots\|Seeking Your Roots]]. '''We should probably kill him right after finishing that quest to make this one faster, but we have not tested this yet.'''		* Sinderion can be killed to complete this quest, but he is kept alive in order to finish his other quest, [[Oblivion:Seeking Your Roots\|Seeking Your Roots]]. '''We should probably kill him right after finishing that quest to make this one faster, but we have not tested this yet.'''
			* Like all the Master Training quests, the actual Master Trainer needs to be alive prior to starting the quest in order to be able to complete it.
			* Ardaline in the Bravil Mages Guild and Brotch Calus in Bruma are both able to start this quest. Ardaline is the better choice since she lives in a location that overlaps with multiple other quests ([[Oblivion:Bravil Recommendation\|Bravil Recommendation]], [[Oblivion:More Unfinished Business\|More Unfinished Business]], and several other [[Oblivion:Master Training Quests\|Master Training]] quests.).

	==Script Analysis==		==Script Analysis==

>MeemawHustlin at 22:26, 9 October 2022

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	''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.''		''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.''

	# ~~Talk~~ to ~~NPC:~~		# In Cloud Ruler Temple, acquire the Tamika Vintage 399 and Surilie Brothers Vintage 399 wine bottles upstairs next to the bed in the main bedroom. (''You must already be a member of the Blades for these to not count as stolen.'')
	#* ''~~↳ speech option that sets stage~~'' '''(10)'''		# Cast a spell to boost your Alchemy to 70+ and immediately talk to Ardaline in the Bravil Mages Guild.
	# ~~Perform action~~. '''(✔ 100)'''		#: ↳ ''Training.'' '''(10)'''
			# Fast travel to Skingrad to enter the West Weald Inn.
			# Enter the basement and talk to Sinderion.
			#: ↳ ''Training.''
			#: ↳ ''Training.'' '''(✔ 100)'''

	==Bugs==		==Bugs==
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	==Route Logic Considerations==		==Route Logic Considerations==

	~~There~~ are ~~no significant route logic considerations~~ for this ~~quest~~.		* The Tamika Vintage 399 and Surilie Brothers Vintage 399 should be acquired before visiting Sinderion for the first time to prevent backtracking. Ideally these items should not have the stolen flag to avoid losing them throughout the run up to the point that this quest is completed. The Cloud Ruler Temple West Wing is an ideal location to acquire these items since both bottles are right next to each other (along with Cyrodilic Brandy, which is needed for [[Oblivion:Sanguine\|Sanguine]]) and do not count as stolen if you've joined the Blades. You can join the Blades right after completing [[Oblivion:Weynon Priory\|Weynon Priory]], so you should complete that quest before this one.
			* Sinderion can be killed to complete this quest, but he is kept alive in order to finish his other quest, [[Oblivion:Seeking Your Roots\|Seeking Your Roots]]. '''We should probably kill him right after finishing that quest to make this one faster, but we have not tested this yet.'''
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	==Script Analysis==		==Script Analysis==

>Brian Bosch: Created page with "==Current Best Route== ''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.'' # Talk to NPC: #* ''↳ speech option that sets stage'' '''(10)''' # Perform action. '''(✔ 100)''' ==Bugs== Currently there are no known b..."

2022-06-02T04:39:03Z

Created page with "==Current Best Route== ''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.'' # Talk to NPC: #* ''↳ speech option that sets stage'' '''(10)''' # Perform action. '''(✔ 100)''' ==Bugs== Currently there are no known b..."

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==Current Best Route==

''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.''

# Talk to NPC:
#* ''↳ speech option that sets stage'' '''(10)'''
# Perform action. '''(✔ 100)'''

==Bugs==

Currently there are no known bugs associated with this quest that affect the 100% route.

==Route Logic Considerations==

There are no significant route logic considerations for this quest.

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==Script Analysis==

No script analysis has been done for this quest.

==Quest Stages==

{| class="wikitable"
|+ Alchemy Training (TrainingAlchemy)
|-
! Stage !! Finish !! setstage Scripts !! Journal Entry
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 10
| style="text-align:center;" |
| style="text-align:center;" |
|| I need to seek out Sinderion in Skingrad if I wish to learn more about Alchemy.
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 20
| style="text-align:center;" |
| style="text-align:center;" |
|| Sinderion has asked that I bring him a bottle of Tamika's Vintage 399 wine, and a bottle of Surilie Brother's Vintage 399 wine. I should acquire them so that he will agree to train me.
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 100
| style="text-align:center;" | ✔
| style="text-align:center;" |
|| I have completed Sinderion's task, and he has agreed to train me in Alchemy.
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 200
| style="text-align:center;" | ✔
| style="text-align:center;" |
|| Sinderion is dead. It will be impossible for me to receive further Alchemy training.
|}